Feb. 28th, 2012 12:14 am
Trope-a-dope
Hilar:

A few things they left out of this formula:
7. An unfailingly loyal wingman with buttloads of honor. Bonus if there's some romantic tension: Sam, Hermione, Leia
8. One or two comic-relief sidekicks. Bonus points if they're put into a kick-the-puppy situation. Respectively for these: Merry & Pip; Ron (and Dobby, to an extent); C3P0/R2.
9. A loveable rogue. Bonus if s/he's a badass or has a dark past: Strider, and sort of Leggy/Gimli; Sirius, Lupin, etc., and the ultimate one: Han "I shot first" Solo.
10. A turncoat: Boromir, half of the single-book villains, Lando
Also, I decided to try to apply this formula to my two novels (the second of which is just three chapters away from completion! Woo!) and was amused that I seem to have dodged quite a lot of it, even without intentionally meaning to.
Thunderstone:
1. Young female, actually
2. Nope. Parents are annoying and frustrating, but present, and not evil.
3. Not really, no. An older female mentor is introduced later, but she's not a sage/crone type.
4. Lampshaded and subverted.
5. Without revealing spoilers: no. More just petty, misguided acts inspired by past trauma.
6. That one I'll cop to. But he's not at all a villain or anti-hero.
7. Sort of. I don't really have an A/B hero/sidekick model, but all of her companions could qualify for this. No romantic tension at all, though.
8. Yes, in a pair.
9. Not really, though one of the #8 pair could qualify.
10. Nope. No sudden-but-inevitable betrayals, here.
Harper:
1. Yep.
2. Nope. Has a great relationship with his family, actually.
3. Does a mouthy goth girl count?
4. Sort of, if you count his curse.
5. Yes, but it's way more complex than some power-mad freak who wants to rule the galaxy. Also: multiple villains, each with their own motivations.
6. Oddly, despite my major jones for this type, no.
7. Yep.
8. I have a couple of wisecrackers, but they're in other positions.
9. Hell, yes.
10. Not exactly, no.
Also, looking at the outline for my next book (working title: Eureka)
1. Young-ish woman, though she's more a pawn than a hero.
2. Sort of. She is an orphan, but it's more complex than that.
3. There's a Caterpiller-esque character that shows up in one chapter. Otherwise, no.
4. Yes, though it's not directly related to her.
5. The villain is a control freak, but in a very different way than usual.
6. Yes, but she's more a #9 type.
7. Yes.
8. Not yet. I have a pair who might qualify, but I'm not yet planning to use them much.
9. See above.
10. Yes, but it's over and done with by chapter 2.

A few things they left out of this formula:
7. An unfailingly loyal wingman with buttloads of honor. Bonus if there's some romantic tension: Sam, Hermione, Leia
8. One or two comic-relief sidekicks. Bonus points if they're put into a kick-the-puppy situation. Respectively for these: Merry & Pip; Ron (and Dobby, to an extent); C3P0/R2.
9. A loveable rogue. Bonus if s/he's a badass or has a dark past: Strider, and sort of Leggy/Gimli; Sirius, Lupin, etc., and the ultimate one: Han "I shot first" Solo.
10. A turncoat: Boromir, half of the single-book villains, Lando
Also, I decided to try to apply this formula to my two novels (the second of which is just three chapters away from completion! Woo!) and was amused that I seem to have dodged quite a lot of it, even without intentionally meaning to.
Thunderstone:
1. Young female, actually
2. Nope. Parents are annoying and frustrating, but present, and not evil.
3. Not really, no. An older female mentor is introduced later, but she's not a sage/crone type.
4. Lampshaded and subverted.
5. Without revealing spoilers: no. More just petty, misguided acts inspired by past trauma.
6. That one I'll cop to. But he's not at all a villain or anti-hero.
7. Sort of. I don't really have an A/B hero/sidekick model, but all of her companions could qualify for this. No romantic tension at all, though.
8. Yes, in a pair.
9. Not really, though one of the #8 pair could qualify.
10. Nope. No sudden-but-inevitable betrayals, here.
Harper:
1. Yep.
2. Nope. Has a great relationship with his family, actually.
3. Does a mouthy goth girl count?
4. Sort of, if you count his curse.
5. Yes, but it's way more complex than some power-mad freak who wants to rule the galaxy. Also: multiple villains, each with their own motivations.
6. Oddly, despite my major jones for this type, no.
7. Yep.
8. I have a couple of wisecrackers, but they're in other positions.
9. Hell, yes.
10. Not exactly, no.
Also, looking at the outline for my next book (working title: Eureka)
1. Young-ish woman, though she's more a pawn than a hero.
2. Sort of. She is an orphan, but it's more complex than that.
3. There's a Caterpiller-esque character that shows up in one chapter. Otherwise, no.
4. Yes, though it's not directly related to her.
5. The villain is a control freak, but in a very different way than usual.
6. Yes, but she's more a #9 type.
7. Yes.
8. Not yet. I have a pair who might qualify, but I'm not yet planning to use them much.
9. See above.
10. Yes, but it's over and done with by chapter 2.