May. 15th, 2004 05:45 pm
Philosophical question
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textualdevianceAt the risk of setting a can opener on Cream of Worm Soup, there's something I've been curious about.
I know a lot of people on my flist here are religious, in various denominations. Not being actively into organized religion myself (though I was raised Christian) I'm curious about how liberal people of faith feel about that.
I understand that it's certainly not necessary to be conservative or reactionary in order to be religious, but I can't escape the fact that there are certain tenets, particularly in some denominations, which are pretty clear about things like the status of women and same-sex activity, etc. and I wonder how people reconcile that?
I know for some people I've talked to, they simply consider themselves Christian in its strictest sense-- following the teachings of Jesus. I can perfectly understand that. I believe Jesus existed, and I think he was a cool guy who had a lot of nice things to say. I don't believe he was the son of God, because I don't believe in a conscious deity, but I think he was generally pretty groovy. It's all the other stuff in the Bible that seems kind of extraneous to me, especially the teachings of Paul, and much of the old testament, and Genesis, etc. and I've wondered how people who believe in the rest of the Bible deal with some of the ickier stuff that's in there. In particular, I've wondered about people who belong to religions which, as an organization, are particularly conservative. To me, it's kind of like having a job, and then finding out your CEO donates to the KKK or something. I'd want out of that job, fast. I wouldn't want to be part of an organization whose leadership actively engages in things I seriously disagree with. Is it a matter of not having other alternatives (like not having another job to go to, for instance)? Or is it more of a desire to try to change the organization from within?
Related, I also wonder how people of faith deal with ecumenical issues. Most religions have some element of one-true-wayism in them, so I've often wondered how different denominations really feel about other faiths. Do they feel that the other people are just misguided, and will find the true way eventually? Or is it something more like accepting something like... God has multiple facets, and therefore any/all religions can be/are right at the same time?
My apologies if any of this comes off as asking someone to justify their beliefs. I'm just curious, really.
I know a lot of people on my flist here are religious, in various denominations. Not being actively into organized religion myself (though I was raised Christian) I'm curious about how liberal people of faith feel about that.
I understand that it's certainly not necessary to be conservative or reactionary in order to be religious, but I can't escape the fact that there are certain tenets, particularly in some denominations, which are pretty clear about things like the status of women and same-sex activity, etc. and I wonder how people reconcile that?
I know for some people I've talked to, they simply consider themselves Christian in its strictest sense-- following the teachings of Jesus. I can perfectly understand that. I believe Jesus existed, and I think he was a cool guy who had a lot of nice things to say. I don't believe he was the son of God, because I don't believe in a conscious deity, but I think he was generally pretty groovy. It's all the other stuff in the Bible that seems kind of extraneous to me, especially the teachings of Paul, and much of the old testament, and Genesis, etc. and I've wondered how people who believe in the rest of the Bible deal with some of the ickier stuff that's in there. In particular, I've wondered about people who belong to religions which, as an organization, are particularly conservative. To me, it's kind of like having a job, and then finding out your CEO donates to the KKK or something. I'd want out of that job, fast. I wouldn't want to be part of an organization whose leadership actively engages in things I seriously disagree with. Is it a matter of not having other alternatives (like not having another job to go to, for instance)? Or is it more of a desire to try to change the organization from within?
Related, I also wonder how people of faith deal with ecumenical issues. Most religions have some element of one-true-wayism in them, so I've often wondered how different denominations really feel about other faiths. Do they feel that the other people are just misguided, and will find the true way eventually? Or is it something more like accepting something like... God has multiple facets, and therefore any/all religions can be/are right at the same time?
My apologies if any of this comes off as asking someone to justify their beliefs. I'm just curious, really.
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I think the Old Testament is simply a record of the Hebrew people, their laws, and their histories, and their lineages. I was struck when reading the Iliad and other ancient mythological works by the similarities in content (not the exact stories, but the types of things they talked about), and so that's what I think. The Old Testament is the way the world was back then. The only teachings I really try to hold to are Jesus's words. The rest of the New Testament is letters and writings by Jesus's Apostles and others in the church spreading their interpretations of Jesus's word -- and they certainly did have opinions. A lot of Christian rhetoric never came from the mouth of the man that we deified -- Christ -- and that bothers me.
I don't know if that's the kind of answer you were looking for or not. I really enjoy talking about religion and have lots of opinions/beliefs on the subject, so I can really get going. I hope you didn't mind.