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textualdeviance ([personal profile] textualdeviance) wrote2005-10-10 09:20 am

okay

A good night's sleep does wonders.

Now, the rantage I mentioned...



One of the things that bewildered me about my stories being cut was the notion of having to have three live sources to do a movie preview.

Uh. Okay. Feel free to pay for my trip to a press junket, then. And then I can sit in a stuffy hotel room with George Clooney and his small army of publicists and get five minutes to ask the same stupid questions that the last 70 hacks have asked, the answers to which could be easily divined by simply doing a bit of homework.

That's not journalism.

There is very little that a live source can give in cases like that that you're not going to find elsewhere. Journalists are supposed to do their homework before they do a story anyway. If you over-rely on interviews to do that homework for you, frankly, that's just laziness. We have this wonderful new-fangled innerweb thingy which has a wealth of information right at your fingertips. So you get assigned a story, you look up what's already been written about it, and what the hard data of it is, and then, if there are questions that come up that don't get answered by your research, you go pester a live human being to fill in the blanks. There is NOTHING that will irritate an interviewee more than a reporter who hasn't done their homework, and wastes their time asking stupid questions.

When I was doing BEI, etc., I was always combing for new interviews. I still have newsalerts set for some of the stuff. And what I found was that there were, at times, literally dozens of stories which all gave the exact same set of data, including quotes. The writer didn't bother mentioning that they were at a press conference, they didn't bother mentioning that they were at a junket and had five minutes. And in the video footage from some of those, you can tell how pissed off the actor in question is about being asked the same inane questions for several hours in a row.

How is that journalism? How is that reporting? I got dinged on one of my stories because I was "regurgitating" information which had already been printed. (Uh, no, but that's a longer story.) What I want to know is: how is taking tons of information from several different legitimate non-live sources and synthesizing them into a single, concise article regurgitation while sitting at a press conference and writing up the exact same quote that the other 40 people in the room are going to write up is NOT regurgitation? And for that matter, how is it not regurgitation to be too lazy to get data before you do an interview, and get a quote from a live source saying the EXACT same thing you would've found had you done the research yourself?

We live in an age of incredibly media-savvy and up-to-date information consumers. In this climate, where readers are even writing the news themselves, you can't get away with passing off interviews as reporting when they say the same things your readers already know.

There are two functions for journalists in this climate:

1. Be a human RSS feed. Take a bunch of information from different sources, cut it down, re-shape it for your audience, and put it together in a single, neat package that's easily digestible. You do this so you save your readers the time and energy of having to go out and do all that research themselves.

2. Be an investigator and analyst. This is where real journalism comes in. You do the same thing that you do with the RSS feed, but you put the information together in a way that gives an angle or analysis of the information which is new and different than a reader would've been able to divine for themselves. This is the sort of thing that wins Pulitzers.

Sticking a microphone in someone's face and asking them ridiculous questions is not journalism. Absolutely, interviews are necessary to the trade, and there will always be times when you get stuff out of those that you're not going to get anywhere else. There will also always be times when there is NO existing data to go from, and you have to do an interview to get anything at all. Breaking news is one of those things. Car accident? You have to go bug the police and witnesses.

But IMHO, there's absolutely no point in wasting some poor slob's time to ask them questions that you could've already answered by looking up the data in the first place. And when your research answers all the reasonable questions your audience would want, there's no point in duplicating that effort just to say you've talked to a live human being.

The point of journalism should be to get accurate, useful information, package it, and deliver it to a mass audience. Whether that accurate information comes from a live interview or from already-printed data shouldn't matter. A live source rule makes sense for breaking news stories. It doesn't make sense for every story.

[identity profile] davebooth.livejournal.com 2005-10-10 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh... yes.. but...

"Journalists as investigators" being percieved as the crowning pinnacle of achievement in the field (that whole Pulitzer thing you mentioned) means that journalists and those in charge of them tend to want the poor schmuck of a correspondent to go out and be an investigator even though all they are writing is a movie review.. That used to be a question of researching the background to the movie, going to see it and voicing an opinion with researched facts to back up the opinion... Now, unless there is an "investigative" aspect to it which brings in the "live source" requirement, editors just dont see it as "good" journalism.

Even the food pages editor dreams of riding to greatness on the coat-tails of their intrepid team of reporters and wants their restaurant reviewer to produce investigative journalism.. even though, in that context, it is so unutterably ludicrous that it is a waste of inches. These guys just dont realise that their readers and contemporaries also see it as a waste of time so they are never going to get that prize, never make it to managing the news desk no matter how much they ride their reporters for stuff that they really dont need.

And the local rag wonders why I repeatedly tell them I've no interest in subscribing for more than just the Sunday issue....

[identity profile] textualdeviance.livejournal.com 2005-10-10 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, what I was writing was a preview, rather than a review. Different angles, and the former is more newsy than the latter, which is a matter of opinion and therefore technically requires less actual investigation.

I will give this paper I'm writing for one big credit, though: their stories are overall better-written than the majority of student newspapers I've read. The content of the stories may be rather thin on average (there are definitely exceptions) but the stories themselves are literate. The hammering on proper style and grammar pays off.

[identity profile] thefirstalicat.livejournal.com 2005-10-10 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I myself would like to encourage you and others like you, Shawna, to pursue your journalism goals, simply because of headlines like this:
http://news.lycos.com/wired/story.asp?section=MyLycos&storyId=1100432

Ahem. "Casey Bypasses Santorum in Fundraising" does not, remotely, mean the same as "Casey Passes Santorum in Fundraising," which is what the writer was apparently attempting to say.

Presumably someone got paid for this, too. And it's just an article headline that I saw at random just after reading your post; sadly, it's not at all unusual....So please, help to save us hapless readers from these blunders!

[identity profile] textualdeviance.livejournal.com 2005-10-11 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Egad. And that's the AP!!

*facepalm*

I hereby solemnly swear to do my best to not be a hack. *scout salute*

[identity profile] pixxelpuss.livejournal.com 2005-10-11 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
Erm, I'm not going to address the purpose of a journalist in today's world. Frankly, I'm not sure that I'm qualified to decide what that is. I only read news that is CLEARLY biased so I know where I'm coming from.

But the interviewing stuff... Interviews can round out a factual story, and give an interesting texture. They serve a purpose, but should only be done AFTER the research so you can ask incisive and insightful questions. Otherwise it's a glossy fluff piece. Which I've written, but it sure as hell ain't journalism.

[identity profile] textualdeviance.livejournal.com 2005-10-11 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, absolutely interviews have a place-- quotes are great stuff for just about any article, and putting a human face on news is essential in many cases. My irritation at the moment is that I'm under the impression that interviews should constitute the sum total of information we get to write our stories, and that just seems really wrong to me. Even if you get four different people to talk to you, you're still probably not getting the whole story. For something simple like breaking news-- car crashes, a broken water main, that sort of thing -- sure, interviews are the bread and butter. But for stories that go beyond the "this happened, this is who it happened to and this is the outcome" news reporting stuff, interviews only give a tiny portion of the overall picture.

I can't figure out if this rule is because they don't want the writers getting into those involved pieces until they go work on the magazine, or because they think the students won't have enough of an attention span to read them. Given the sheer amount of devotion I'm seeing among the students to booze and pot, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the latter.

[identity profile] pixxelpuss.livejournal.com 2005-10-11 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
Or maybe they (like Many post-secondary institutions) think that students are incapable of understanding that plagarism is a bad idea, and figure this is a way around it. You can't plagarize an in-person interview, after all.

Sorry, I'm just sick of getting the same lecture at the start of every single course. Didn't we all learn this in HIGH SCHOOL? Goddamn.