Self-parody is one thing, but he's parodying a culture he doesn't belong to. If he wanted to do an outrageous sendup of black stereotypes, that's his right, but he doesn't have the right to mock other people.
i really expressed myself poorly in my comment to you !
hm. to further elaborate. playboy's native american playmate from 1973, all decked out in native garb, is _appalling_. it's hideous in so many ways i can't even begin to describe it. racism is exhibited by playboy's absolute lack of recognition that their depiction of a wank-object as an "indian princess" is in any way wrong.
outkast? knows what he's doing. [oh: is it _he_ or is it _they_ ?] those vastly stereotypical indians are a send up of our own culture, not native american culture.
i agree that it isn't nice to mock cultures that are not your own. but i don't think that's what Outkast is doing, so i'm neatly sidestepping that issue. i think Outkast is mocking his *own* culture.
NOT getting into the racial... thing, but I just wanted to jump in here to say that OutKast is really two men- Big Boi, and Andre 3000 (as he's calling himself at the moment. I think). Their album, for which they won record of the year, was a double set that was, essentially, two solo albums. They set records recently when both sides of their latest single hit it big on Billboard- "Hey Ya!" was no.1, and "The Way You Move" was no.2.
Earlier in the Grammy broadcast, Big Boi performed "The Way You Move." Andre 3000 performed "Hey Ya!" to close the show.
It's as simple as how black people can call each other "nigga" but white people can't. You can make fun of yourself. It's rude to make fun of other people.
Dave Chappelle makes fun of white people on his show just about every week and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. In fact, I usually laugh my ass off.
White people are in a position of power. Mocking people in a position of power by people who are not is reasonable. Mocking people who are not in power isn't.
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textualdeviance) wrote2004-02-10 02:51 pm
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hm. to further elaborate. playboy's native american playmate from 1973, all decked out in native garb, is _appalling_. it's hideous in so many ways i can't even begin to describe it. racism is exhibited by playboy's absolute lack of recognition that their depiction of a wank-object as an "indian princess" is in any way wrong.
outkast? knows what he's doing. [oh: is it _he_ or is it _they_ ?] those vastly stereotypical indians are a send up of our own culture, not native american culture.
i agree that it isn't nice to mock cultures that are not your own. but i don't think that's what Outkast is doing, so i'm neatly sidestepping that issue. i think Outkast is mocking his *own* culture.
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Earlier in the Grammy broadcast, Big Boi performed "The Way You Move." Andre 3000 performed "Hey Ya!" to close the show.
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i was hoping someone would answer my question!
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And if you feel all mocking is okay, why? Why is it okay to heap more abuse on a group which is already disenfranchised and oppressed?